John Carl DREES

Male 1911 - 1996  (85 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  John Carl DREES was born on 19 Feb 1911 in Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio; died on 23 Nov 1996 in Heritage Manor Nursing Center - Minster, Auglaize County, Ohio; was buried in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio.

    John married Hildreth E DANIEL on 22 Sep 1931. Hildreth (daughter of William Gerhart DANIEL and Rosa M BEHRNS) was born on 27 Aug 1913 in Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio; died on 2 Sep 2000 in Joint Township District Memorial Hospital - St. Marys, Auglaize County, Ohio; was buried on 8 Sep 2000 in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Frederick W DREES  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 22 Apr 1932 in Darke County, Ohio; died on 14 Dec 2020 in Upper Valley Medical Center - Troy, Miami County, Ohio; was buried in St. Remy Catholic Cemetery - Russia, Shelby County, Ohio.
    2. 3. Norma Rose DREES  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 10 Sep 1935 in North Star, Darke County, Ohio; died on 4 Nov 2005 in Good Samaritan Hospital - Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio; was buried on 8 Nov 2005 in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio.
    3. 4. William Harold DREES  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 Feb 1937 in Sidney, Shelby County, Ohio; died on 31 Dec 2018; was buried in Polk Grove Cemetery - Butler Township, Montgomery County, Ohio.
    4. 5. Louis Walter DREES  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 5 Jul 1938 in Ohio; died on 30 Dec 2019 in Heritage Manor Nursing Center - Minster, Auglaize County, Ohio; was buried on 4 Jan 2020 in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio.
    5. 6. Raymond Leo DREES  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 19 Nov 1939 in Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio; died on 8 Jan 2025 in Otterbein Senior Life Community - St. Marys, Auglaize County, Ohio; was buried on 14 Jan 2025 in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio.
    6. 7. Vernon P DREES  Descendancy chart to this point


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Frederick W DREES Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born on 22 Apr 1932 in Darke County, Ohio; died on 14 Dec 2020 in Upper Valley Medical Center - Troy, Miami County, Ohio; was buried in St. Remy Catholic Cemetery - Russia, Shelby County, Ohio.

    Frederick married Eileen Amelia LUTHMAN on 18 Mar 1952. Eileen (daughter of Wilbert J LUTHMAN and Viola GARIETY) was born on 21 Jul 1934 in St. Patrick, Shelby County, Ohio; died on 12 Mar 2004 in Russia, Shelby County, Ohio; was buried in St. Patrick Cemetrey - St. Patrick, Shelby County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 8. Diane DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 9. Gerry DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 10. Daniel DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 11. Mark DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    5. 12. Shirley DREES  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 25 May 1965.
    6. 13. Michael DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    7. 14. Irene DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    8. 15. James DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    9. 16. Darlene Ann DREES  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1956; died in 2000.

  2. 3.  Norma Rose DREES Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born on 10 Sep 1935 in North Star, Darke County, Ohio; died on 4 Nov 2005 in Good Samaritan Hospital - Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio; was buried on 8 Nov 2005 in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio.

    Norma married Thomas Frank GAIER on 30 Jun 1954 in St. Michael Catholic Church - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio. Thomas (son of August Joseph GAIER and Esther Viola LARGER) was born on 5 Dec 1933 in Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio; died on 5 Jul 2010 in Coldwater, Michigan; was buried on 10 Jul 2010 in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 17. Donald Ralph GAIER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 17 Dec 1956.
    2. 18. Linda GAIER  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 19. Tina Marie GAIER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 25 Jan 1962 in Sidney, Shelby County, Ohio; died on 7 Jul 2014 in Joint Township District Memorial Hospital - St. Marys, Auglaize County, Ohio; was buried on 11 Jul 2014 in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio.

  3. 4.  William Harold DREES Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born on 23 Feb 1937 in Sidney, Shelby County, Ohio; died on 31 Dec 2018; was buried in Polk Grove Cemetery - Butler Township, Montgomery County, Ohio.

    Family/Spouse: Lois Mae KOVERMAN. Lois (daughter of Julius KOVERMAN and Helen Veronica POEPPELMAN) was born on 23 May 1939 in Sidney, Shelby County, Ohio; died on 1 Oct 2019 in Hospice of Dayton - Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio; was buried on 4 Oct 2019 in Polk Grove Cemetery - Butler Township, Montgomery County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 20. Jeffrey DREES  Descendancy chart to this point died in Mar 2018.
    2. 21. William J DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 22. Scott DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 23. Ann DREES  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 5.  Louis Walter DREES Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born on 5 Jul 1938 in Ohio; died on 30 Dec 2019 in Heritage Manor Nursing Center - Minster, Auglaize County, Ohio; was buried on 4 Jan 2020 in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio.

    Louis married Janice L PLACKE on 18 Jun 1960. Janice (daughter of Edward PLACKE and Hilda Christene DREES) was born on 13 Jan 1939; died on 4 May 2019 in Wilson Health Hospital - Sidney, Shelby County, Ohio; was buried on May 8, 02019 in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 24. Deborah DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 25. Ronald DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 26. Craig DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 27. David DREES  Descendancy chart to this point

  5. 6.  Raymond Leo DREES Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born on 19 Nov 1939 in Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio; died on 8 Jan 2025 in Otterbein Senior Life Community - St. Marys, Auglaize County, Ohio; was buried on 14 Jan 2025 in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio.

    Raymond married Caroline BOYCE on 26 Nov 1960 in St. Michael Catholic Church - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 28. Kathleen DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 29. Karen DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 30. John DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 31. Anthony DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    5. 32. Amy DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    6. 33. Barbara DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    7. 34. Stacy Elaine DREES  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 5 May 1975.

  6. 7.  Vernon P DREES Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1)

    Vernon married Ruth K FRENZER on 1 Apr 1967 in Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Catholic Church - Cassella, Mercer County, Ohio. Ruth (daughter of Urban C FRENZER and Agatha F TUMBUSCH) was born on 5 Sep 1946 in Cassella, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 8 Dec 2017 in Hospice of Miami Valley - Troy, Miami County, Ohio; was buried on 13 Dec 2017 in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 35. Robyn DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 36. Melinda DREES  Descendancy chart to this point


Generation: 3

  1. 8.  Diane DREES Descendancy chart to this point (2.Frederick2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: James GRILLIOT. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Gerry DREES Descendancy chart to this point (2.Frederick2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Lynn SIMONS. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 10.  Daniel DREES Descendancy chart to this point (2.Frederick2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Tamala K HARTZELL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 37. J D DREES  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 11.  Mark DREES Descendancy chart to this point (2.Frederick2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Cheryl QUINLIN. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 38. Ryan DREES  Descendancy chart to this point

  5. 12.  Shirley DREES Descendancy chart to this point (2.Frederick2, 1.John1) was born on 25 May 1965.

    Family/Spouse: Allen J FRANCIS. Allen (son of Lawrence Felix FRANCIS and Barbara BARHORST) was born on 18 Jan 1964. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 39. Stephanie FRANCIS  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 25 May 1984.
    2. 40. A J FRANCIS  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 4 Feb 1991; died on 25 Apr 1992.
    3. 41. Rachael FRANCIS  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 Jul 1993.
    4. 42. Nicolas FRANCIS  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 2 Feb 1995.
    5. 43. Valerie FRANCIS  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 5 Nov 1996.

  6. 13.  Michael DREES Descendancy chart to this point (2.Frederick2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Cheryl. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  7. 14.  Irene DREES Descendancy chart to this point (2.Frederick2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Michael MURPHY. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 15.  James DREES Descendancy chart to this point (2.Frederick2, 1.John1)

  9. 16.  Darlene Ann DREES Descendancy chart to this point (2.Frederick2, 1.John1) was born in 1956; died in 2000.

  10. 17.  Donald Ralph GAIER Descendancy chart to this point (3.Norma2, 1.John1) was born on 17 Dec 1956.

    Donald married Julie Ann BOERGER on 3 Sep 1977. Julie (daughter of Frank Richard BOERGER and Irene Elizabeth DAPORE) was born on 12 Feb 1958. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 44. Alicia Marie GAIER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 6 Dec 1978.
    2. 45. Amanda Marie GAIER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 18 Apr 1981.
    3. 46. Michael Lee GAIER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 6 Mar 1988.

  11. 18.  Linda GAIER Descendancy chart to this point (3.Norma2, 1.John1)

    Linda married Eugene Francis BARHORST on 23 Jul 1976 in St. Michael Catholic Church - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio. Eugene (son of Richard Henry BARHORST and Cecilia Ann MONNIN) was born on 28 Aug 1955 in Greenville, Darke County, Ohio; died on 9 May 2021 in Lewisburg, Logan County, Kentucky; was buried on 17 May 2021 in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 47. Shawn BARHORST  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 48. Jessica BARHORST  Descendancy chart to this point

  12. 19.  Tina Marie GAIER Descendancy chart to this point (3.Norma2, 1.John1) was born on 25 Jan 1962 in Sidney, Shelby County, Ohio; died on 7 Jul 2014 in Joint Township District Memorial Hospital - St. Marys, Auglaize County, Ohio; was buried on 11 Jul 2014 in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio.

  13. 20.  Jeffrey DREES Descendancy chart to this point (4.William2, 1.John1) died in Mar 2018.

  14. 21.  William J DREES Descendancy chart to this point (4.William2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Terri RUBINS. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 49. William S DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 50. Michael DREES  Descendancy chart to this point

  15. 22.  Scott DREES Descendancy chart to this point (4.William2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Stefanee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  16. 23.  Ann DREES Descendancy chart to this point (4.William2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Dave MCPHERSON. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 51. Ryan MCPHERSON  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 52. Chad MCPHERSON  Descendancy chart to this point

  17. 24.  Deborah DREES Descendancy chart to this point (5.Louis2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Mark WESTERHEIDE. Mark (son of Leroy H WESTERHEIDE and Joann FRIEMERING) was born on 19 Mar 1959. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  18. 25.  Ronald DREES Descendancy chart to this point (5.Louis2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Judy LUTHMAN. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  19. 26.  Craig DREES Descendancy chart to this point (5.Louis2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Cherie ROSENGARTEN. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 53. Brad DREES  Descendancy chart to this point

  20. 27.  David DREES Descendancy chart to this point (5.Louis2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Peggy SEGER. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 54. Peyton John DREES  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 25 May 2000 in Sidney, Shelby County, Ohio; died on 5 Sep 2020 in Minster, Auglaize County, Ohio; was buried on 10 Sep 2020 in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio.
    2. 55. Jordan DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 56. Landen DREES  Descendancy chart to this point

  21. 28.  Kathleen DREES Descendancy chart to this point (6.Raymond2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Robert ALBERS. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 57. Joshua ALBERS  Descendancy chart to this point

  22. 29.  Karen DREES Descendancy chart to this point (6.Raymond2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Edward BENANZER. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  23. 30.  John DREES Descendancy chart to this point (6.Raymond2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Tracy HEITKAMP. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 58. Hunter DREES  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 59. Jada DREES  Descendancy chart to this point

  24. 31.  Anthony DREES Descendancy chart to this point (6.Raymond2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Elaine HILGEFORT. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  25. 32.  Amy DREES Descendancy chart to this point (6.Raymond2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: John GUILLOZET. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  26. 33.  Barbara DREES Descendancy chart to this point (6.Raymond2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Robin ROBBINS. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  27. 34.  Stacy Elaine DREES Descendancy chart to this point (6.Raymond2, 1.John1) was born on 5 May 1975.

    Family/Spouse: Jeffery Alan BRANDEWIE. Jeffery (son of Daniel Herbert BRANDEWIE and Treva Mae ERNST) was born on 6 Jun 1975. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 60. Colleen Mae BRANDEWIE  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 11 Jun 2003.
    2. 61. Avery Kathleen BRANDEWIE  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 6 Dec 2006.
    3. 62. Olivia Carolyn BRANDEWIE  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 27 Oct 2010.

  28. 35.  Robyn DREES Descendancy chart to this point (7.Vernon2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Brian ARNOLD. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 63. Carson ARNOLD  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 64. Addison ARNOLD  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 65. Hollie ARNOLD  Descendancy chart to this point

  29. 36.  Melinda DREES Descendancy chart to this point (7.Vernon2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Jason DAVENPORT. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 66. Kayla DAVENPORT  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 67. Jonathon DAVENPORT  Descendancy chart to this point


Generation: 4

  1. 37.  J D DREES Descendancy chart to this point (10.Daniel3, 2.Frederick2, 1.John1)

  2. 38.  Ryan DREES Descendancy chart to this point (11.Mark3, 2.Frederick2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Jennifer. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 68. Maddox DREES  Descendancy chart to this point

  3. 39.  Stephanie FRANCIS Descendancy chart to this point (12.Shirley3, 2.Frederick2, 1.John1) was born on 25 May 1984.

    Family/Spouse: Michael GOUBEAUX. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 69. Corynn GOUBEAUX  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 4 Jun 2009.
    2. 70. Kaleb GOUBEAUX  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 20 Aug 2011.
    3. 71. Samuel GOUBEAUX  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 24 May 2013.
    4. 72. Isaac GOUBEAUX  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 3 Dec 2014.

  4. 40.  A J FRANCIS Descendancy chart to this point (12.Shirley3, 2.Frederick2, 1.John1) was born on 4 Feb 1991; died on 25 Apr 1992.

  5. 41.  Rachael FRANCIS Descendancy chart to this point (12.Shirley3, 2.Frederick2, 1.John1) was born on 23 Jul 1993.

  6. 42.  Nicolas FRANCIS Descendancy chart to this point (12.Shirley3, 2.Frederick2, 1.John1) was born on 2 Feb 1995.

  7. 43.  Valerie FRANCIS Descendancy chart to this point (12.Shirley3, 2.Frederick2, 1.John1) was born on 5 Nov 1996.

  8. 44.  Alicia Marie GAIER Descendancy chart to this point (17.Donald3, 3.Norma2, 1.John1) was born on 6 Dec 1978.

    Alicia married Craig Henry GANSTER on 8 Oct 2005. Craig was born on 13 Sep 1977. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 73. Addison Marie GANSTER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 9 Jan 2008.
    2. 74. Craig Donald GANSTER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 Sep 2010.

  9. 45.  Amanda Marie GAIER Descendancy chart to this point (17.Donald3, 3.Norma2, 1.John1) was born on 18 Apr 1981.

    Amanda married Jason REINDL on 28 Sep 2002. Jason was born on 16 Jun 1976. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 75. Landon Alexander REINDL  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 22 Jun 2006.
    2. 76. Christian Thomas REINDL  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 24 Apr 2008.
    3. 77. Taylor Ann REINDL  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 Jun 2010.

  10. 46.  Michael Lee GAIER Descendancy chart to this point (17.Donald3, 3.Norma2, 1.John1) was born on 6 Mar 1988.

  11. 47.  Shawn BARHORST Descendancy chart to this point (18.Linda3, 3.Norma2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Sarah. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 78. Haley BARHORST  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 79. Keelan BARHORST  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 80. Shawn Patrick BARHORST  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 81. Finnegan BARHORST  Descendancy chart to this point

  12. 48.  Jessica BARHORST Descendancy chart to this point (18.Linda3, 3.Norma2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Jeremy SMITH. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 82. Ashtyn SMITH  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 83. Jackson SMITH  Descendancy chart to this point

  13. 49.  William S DREES Descendancy chart to this point (21.William3, 4.William2, 1.John1)

  14. 50.  Michael DREES Descendancy chart to this point (21.William3, 4.William2, 1.John1)

  15. 51.  Ryan MCPHERSON Descendancy chart to this point (23.Ann3, 4.William2, 1.John1)

  16. 52.  Chad MCPHERSON Descendancy chart to this point (23.Ann3, 4.William2, 1.John1)

  17. 53.  Brad DREES Descendancy chart to this point (26.Craig3, 5.Louis2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Danielle. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  18. 54.  Peyton John DREES Descendancy chart to this point (27.David3, 5.Louis2, 1.John1) was born on 25 May 2000 in Sidney, Shelby County, Ohio; died on 5 Sep 2020 in Minster, Auglaize County, Ohio; was buried on 10 Sep 2020 in St. Michael Catholic Cemetery - Fort Loramie, Shelby County, Ohio.

  19. 55.  Jordan DREES Descendancy chart to this point (27.David3, 5.Louis2, 1.John1)

  20. 56.  Landen DREES Descendancy chart to this point (27.David3, 5.Louis2, 1.John1)

  21. 57.  Joshua ALBERS Descendancy chart to this point (28.Kathleen3, 6.Raymond2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Lisa MUHLENKAMP. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  22. 58.  Hunter DREES Descendancy chart to this point (30.John3, 6.Raymond2, 1.John1)

  23. 59.  Jada DREES Descendancy chart to this point (30.John3, 6.Raymond2, 1.John1)

  24. 60.  Colleen Mae BRANDEWIE Descendancy chart to this point (34.Stacy3, 6.Raymond2, 1.John1) was born on 11 Jun 2003.

  25. 61.  Avery Kathleen BRANDEWIE Descendancy chart to this point (34.Stacy3, 6.Raymond2, 1.John1) was born on 6 Dec 2006.

  26. 62.  Olivia Carolyn BRANDEWIE Descendancy chart to this point (34.Stacy3, 6.Raymond2, 1.John1) was born on 27 Oct 2010.

  27. 63.  Carson ARNOLD Descendancy chart to this point (35.Robyn3, 7.Vernon2, 1.John1)

  28. 64.  Addison ARNOLD Descendancy chart to this point (35.Robyn3, 7.Vernon2, 1.John1)

  29. 65.  Hollie ARNOLD Descendancy chart to this point (35.Robyn3, 7.Vernon2, 1.John1)

  30. 66.  Kayla DAVENPORT Descendancy chart to this point (36.Melinda3, 7.Vernon2, 1.John1)

  31. 67.  Jonathon DAVENPORT Descendancy chart to this point (36.Melinda3, 7.Vernon2, 1.John1)