Marie HOMAN

Female 1908 - 1996  (88 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Marie HOMAN was born on 4 May 1908 in St. Rose, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 20 Dec 1996; was buried in St. Aloysius Catholic Cemetery - Carthagena, Mercer County, Ohio.

    Marie married Herman J KREMER in 1932. Herman (son of Anton H KREMER and Mary K EVERS) was born on 20 Oct 1909 in Carthagena, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 1 Oct 1974 in Lima, Allen County, Ohio; was buried in St. Aloysius Catholic Cemetery - Carthagena, Mercer County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Norbert A KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 14 Apr 1933 in Carthagena, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 4 Dec 2004 in The Gardens of St. Henry - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio; was buried in St. Bernard Catholic Cemetery - Burkettsville, Darke County, Ohio.
    2. 3. Dolores KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 4. Esther R KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 22 Apr 1936 in Carthagena, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 3 Jun 2017 in Briarwood Manor Nursing Center - Coldwater, Mercer County, Ohio; was buried on 7 Jun 2017 in St. Henry Catholic Cemetery - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio.
    4. 5. Stella C KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 13 Apr 1938; died on 17 Feb 2018 in Good Samaritan Hospital - Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio; was buried on 21 Feb 2018 in St. Henry Catholic Cemetery - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio.
    5. 6. Marlene KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    6. 7. Rose Ann KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    7. 8. Mary Ann KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 28 May 1934 in St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 18 Mar 2026 in Elmwood Assisted Living Center - New Bremen, Auglaize County, Ohio; was buried on 23 Mar 2026 in St. Henry Catholic Cemetery - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio.
    8. 9. Donald A KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 12 Apr 1955 in Coldwater, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 21 Nov 2021 in St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio; was buried on 26 Nov 2021 in St. Aloysius Catholic Cemetery - Carthagena, Mercer County, Ohio.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Norbert A KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (1.Marie1) was born on 14 Apr 1933 in Carthagena, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 4 Dec 2004 in The Gardens of St. Henry - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio; was buried in St. Bernard Catholic Cemetery - Burkettsville, Darke County, Ohio.

    Norbert married Edna L GOETTEMOELLER on 15 Oct 1955 in St. Henry Catholic Church - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio. Edna (daughter of Gregor A GOETTEMOELLER and Mary KRAMER) was born on 18 Jul 1933 in St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 18 May 2007 in The Gardens of St. Henry - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio; was buried on 21 May 2007 in St. Bernard Catholic Cemetery - Burkettsville, Darke County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. Steven H KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 9 Jul 1956 in Coldwater, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 20 Nov 2014 in New Bremen, Auglaize County, Ohio; was buried on 24 Nov 2014 in German Protestant Cemetery - New Bremen, Auglaize County, Ohio.
    2. 11. Gerald KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 12. Marvin KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 13. Sharon KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    5. 14. Ann KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point

  2. 3.  Dolores KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (1.Marie1)

    Dolores married David FORTMAN on 29 Aug 1964 in St. Aloysius Catholic Church - Carthagena, Mercer County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 15. Rick FORTMAN  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 5 Nov 1970 in St. Marys, Auglaize County, Ohio.
    2. 16. James FORTMAN  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 17. Brenda FORTMAN  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 18. Robert FORTMAN  Descendancy chart to this point
    5. 19. Mary FORTMAN  Descendancy chart to this point

  3. 4.  Esther R KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (1.Marie1) was born on 22 Apr 1936 in Carthagena, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 3 Jun 2017 in Briarwood Manor Nursing Center - Coldwater, Mercer County, Ohio; was buried on 7 Jun 2017 in St. Henry Catholic Cemetery - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio.

    Esther married Ivo Joseph GOETTEMOELLER on 3 May 1958. Ivo (son of Gregor A GOETTEMOELLER and Mary KRAMER) was born on 28 Jul 1935 in St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 6 Mar 2021 in St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio; was buried on 12 Mar 2021 in St. Henry Catholic Cemetery - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 20. Cindy GOETTEMOELLER  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 21. Cary GOETTEMOELLER  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 22. Chris GOETTEMOELLER  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 23. Ken GOETTEMOELLER  Descendancy chart to this point
    5. 24. Pat GOETTEMOELLER  Descendancy chart to this point
    6. 25. Janet GOETTEMOELLER  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 5.  Stella C KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (1.Marie1) was born on 13 Apr 1938; died on 17 Feb 2018 in Good Samaritan Hospital - Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio; was buried on 21 Feb 2018 in St. Henry Catholic Cemetery - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio.

    Stella married Paul A HEITKAMP on 10 Sep 1960. Paul (son of Edward J HEITKAMP and Hilda M MUHLENKAMP) was born on 24 Jan 1936; died on 23 Jun 2024 in St. Rita's Medical Center - Lima, Allen County, Ohio; was buried on 26 Jun 2024 in St. Henry Catholic Cemetery - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 26. Donald H HEITKAMP  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 11 Sep 1962; died on 29 May 1986; was buried in St. Henry Catholic Cemetery - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio.
    2. 27. David N HEITKAMP  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 7 Nov 1963 in Coldwater, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 31 Jan 2015 in St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio; was buried on 5 Feb 2015 in St. Henry Catholic Cemetery - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio.
    3. 28. Dennis HEITKAMP  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 29. Dale HEITKAMP  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 6 Aug 1966.
    5. 30. Duane HEITKAMP  Descendancy chart to this point

  5. 6.  Marlene KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Wayne TEKAMP. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 7.  Rose Ann KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Alan DILLER. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  7. 8.  Mary Ann KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (1.Marie1) was born on 28 May 1934 in St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 18 Mar 2026 in Elmwood Assisted Living Center - New Bremen, Auglaize County, Ohio; was buried on 23 Mar 2026 in St. Henry Catholic Cemetery - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio.

    Mary married Ralph Bernard GELHAUS on 8 Sep 1956. Ralph (son of Henry John GELHAUS and Philomene Annette KRAMER) was born on 22 Apr 1934 in St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 4 Apr 1999 in Veterans Affairs Medical Center - Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio; was buried in St. Henry Catholic Cemetery - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 31. William GELHAUS  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 32. Ronald GELHAUS  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 33. Bonnie GELHAUS  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 34. Karen GELHAUS  Descendancy chart to this point
    5. 35. Donna GELHAUS  Descendancy chart to this point
    6. 36. Daniel GELHAUS  Descendancy chart to this point

    Mary married Thomas Anthony POEPPELMAN on 18 Aug 2006. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 9.  Donald A KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (1.Marie1) was born on 12 Apr 1955 in Coldwater, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 21 Nov 2021 in St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio; was buried on 26 Nov 2021 in St. Aloysius Catholic Cemetery - Carthagena, Mercer County, Ohio.

    Donald married Virginia BERTKE on 9 Nov 1974 in St. Henry Catholic Church - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 37. Angela Marie KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 38. Scott KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 39. Kyle KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 40. Stacy Ann KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 5 Apr 1981; died on 5 Apr 1981; was buried in St. Aloysius Catholic Cemetery - Carthagena, Mercer County, Ohio.
    5. 41. Jennifer Ann KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 Feb 1983; died on 23 Feb 1983; was buried in St. Aloysius Catholic Cemetery - Carthagena, Mercer County, Ohio.


Generation: 3

  1. 10.  Steven H KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (2.Norbert2, 1.Marie1) was born on 9 Jul 1956 in Coldwater, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 20 Nov 2014 in New Bremen, Auglaize County, Ohio; was buried on 24 Nov 2014 in German Protestant Cemetery - New Bremen, Auglaize County, Ohio.

    Steven married Linda E KLEINHENZ on 13 Aug 1983. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 42. Matthew P KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 43. Anthony D KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 44. Jeffery S KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 45. Douglas G KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    5. 46. Rachel M KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point

  2. 11.  Gerald KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (2.Norbert2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Elizabeth. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 12.  Marvin KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (2.Norbert2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Pamela KRAMER. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 47. Megan KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 48. Ryan KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 49. Nathan KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 13.  Sharon KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (2.Norbert2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Bradley MOORE. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  5. 14.  Ann KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (2.Norbert2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Randy PUTHOFF. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 15.  Rick FORTMAN Descendancy chart to this point (3.Dolores2, 1.Marie1) was born on 5 Nov 1970 in St. Marys, Auglaize County, Ohio.

    Rick married Sandra Jo SCHWIETERMAN on 12 Sep 1998 in Maria Stein, Mercer County, Ohio. Sandra (daughter of Gary Lee SCHWIETERMAN and Kathleen Ann POHLMAN) was born on 27 May 1972 in Coldwater, Mercer County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 50. Zachary Richard FORTMAN  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 28 May 2003 in Wilson Memorial Hospital - Sidney, Shelby County, Ohio.
    2. 51. Megan Elizabeth FORTMAN  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 24 Aug 2005 in Joint Township District Memorial Hospital - St. Marys, Auglaize County, Ohio.

  7. 16.  James FORTMAN Descendancy chart to this point (3.Dolores2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Karen Lynn TURNER. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 52. Maddison FORTMAN  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 53. Mack FORTMAN  Descendancy chart to this point

  8. 17.  Brenda FORTMAN Descendancy chart to this point (3.Dolores2, 1.Marie1)

  9. 18.  Robert FORTMAN Descendancy chart to this point (3.Dolores2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Kathy. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  10. 19.  Mary FORTMAN Descendancy chart to this point (3.Dolores2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Matt OAKES. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  11. 20.  Cindy GOETTEMOELLER Descendancy chart to this point (4.Esther2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: David GEISE. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  12. 21.  Cary GOETTEMOELLER Descendancy chart to this point (4.Esther2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Jacqueline SIEFRING. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  13. 22.  Chris GOETTEMOELLER Descendancy chart to this point (4.Esther2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Margie MUHLENKAMP. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  14. 23.  Ken GOETTEMOELLER Descendancy chart to this point (4.Esther2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Linda. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  15. 24.  Pat GOETTEMOELLER Descendancy chart to this point (4.Esther2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Deb. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  16. 25.  Janet GOETTEMOELLER Descendancy chart to this point (4.Esther2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Fred SCHOEN. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  17. 26.  Donald H HEITKAMP Descendancy chart to this point (5.Stella2, 1.Marie1) was born on 11 Sep 1962; died on 29 May 1986; was buried in St. Henry Catholic Cemetery - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio.

    Family/Spouse: Judy KLEINHENZ. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  18. 27.  David N HEITKAMP Descendancy chart to this point (5.Stella2, 1.Marie1) was born on 7 Nov 1963 in Coldwater, Mercer County, Ohio; died on 31 Jan 2015 in St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio; was buried on 5 Feb 2015 in St. Henry Catholic Cemetery - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio.

    David married Paula KUBSH on 8 Aug 1987 in Two Rivers, Wisconsin. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 54. Christine HEITKAMP  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 55. Chandra HEITKAMP  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 56. Brooke HEITKAMP  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 57. Donald HEITKAMP  Descendancy chart to this point

  19. 28.  Dennis HEITKAMP Descendancy chart to this point (5.Stella2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Joan GUGGENBILLER. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  20. 29.  Dale HEITKAMP Descendancy chart to this point (5.Stella2, 1.Marie1) was born on 6 Aug 1966.

    Dale married Mary Ann UHLENHAKE on 30 Jun 1990 in St. Henry Catholic Church - St. Henry, Mercer County, Ohio. Mary (daughter of Thomas Bernard UHLENHAKE and Marie Margaret BRUNSWICK) was born on 26 Feb 1965. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 58. Bradley Joseph HEITKAMP  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 14 Feb 1993.
    2. 59. Joshua Thomas HEITKAMP  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 12 Mar 1996.
    3. 60. Alyssa Marie HEITKAMP  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 21 Jul 1998.

  21. 30.  Duane HEITKAMP Descendancy chart to this point (5.Stella2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Judy. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  22. 31.  William GELHAUS Descendancy chart to this point (8.Mary2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Darlene MUHLENKAMP. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  23. 32.  Ronald GELHAUS Descendancy chart to this point (8.Mary2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Judy LAUX. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  24. 33.  Bonnie GELHAUS Descendancy chart to this point (8.Mary2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Daniel PAULUS. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  25. 34.  Karen GELHAUS Descendancy chart to this point (8.Mary2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Robert KERNS. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  26. 35.  Donna GELHAUS Descendancy chart to this point (8.Mary2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: SOTO. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  27. 36.  Daniel GELHAUS Descendancy chart to this point (8.Mary2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Amy HOLE. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  28. 37.  Angela Marie KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (9.Donald2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Jay Daniel SCHWIETERMAN. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 61. Sydney SCHWIETERMAN  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 62. Drew SCHWIETERMAN  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 63. Jake SCHWIETERMAN  Descendancy chart to this point

  29. 38.  Scott KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (9.Donald2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Cherity PARMAN. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 64. Clay KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 65. Cole KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 66. Chase KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point

  30. 39.  Kyle KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (9.Donald2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Makayla WILLIAMSON. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 67. Rachel KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 68. Jaxon KREMER  Descendancy chart to this point

  31. 40.  Stacy Ann KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (9.Donald2, 1.Marie1) was born on 5 Apr 1981; died on 5 Apr 1981; was buried in St. Aloysius Catholic Cemetery - Carthagena, Mercer County, Ohio.

  32. 41.  Jennifer Ann KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (9.Donald2, 1.Marie1) was born on 23 Feb 1983; died on 23 Feb 1983; was buried in St. Aloysius Catholic Cemetery - Carthagena, Mercer County, Ohio.


Generation: 4

  1. 42.  Matthew P KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (10.Steven3, 2.Norbert2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 43.  Anthony D KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (10.Steven3, 2.Norbert2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Kimberly A. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 44.  Jeffery S KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (10.Steven3, 2.Norbert2, 1.Marie1)

  4. 45.  Douglas G KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (10.Steven3, 2.Norbert2, 1.Marie1)

  5. 46.  Rachel M KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (10.Steven3, 2.Norbert2, 1.Marie1)

  6. 47.  Megan KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (12.Marvin3, 2.Norbert2, 1.Marie1)

  7. 48.  Ryan KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (12.Marvin3, 2.Norbert2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Lindsey KENTNER. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 49.  Nathan KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (12.Marvin3, 2.Norbert2, 1.Marie1)

  9. 50.  Zachary Richard FORTMAN Descendancy chart to this point (15.Rick3, 3.Dolores2, 1.Marie1) was born on 28 May 2003 in Wilson Memorial Hospital - Sidney, Shelby County, Ohio.

  10. 51.  Megan Elizabeth FORTMAN Descendancy chart to this point (15.Rick3, 3.Dolores2, 1.Marie1) was born on 24 Aug 2005 in Joint Township District Memorial Hospital - St. Marys, Auglaize County, Ohio.

  11. 52.  Maddison FORTMAN Descendancy chart to this point (16.James3, 3.Dolores2, 1.Marie1)

  12. 53.  Mack FORTMAN Descendancy chart to this point (16.James3, 3.Dolores2, 1.Marie1)

  13. 54.  Christine HEITKAMP Descendancy chart to this point (27.David3, 5.Stella2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Chris VAN IDERSTINE. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 69. Hali VAN IDERSTINE  Descendancy chart to this point

  14. 55.  Chandra HEITKAMP Descendancy chart to this point (27.David3, 5.Stella2, 1.Marie1)

    Family/Spouse: Michael NIEKAMP. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 70. Lane NIEKAMP  Descendancy chart to this point

  15. 56.  Brooke HEITKAMP Descendancy chart to this point (27.David3, 5.Stella2, 1.Marie1)

  16. 57.  Donald HEITKAMP Descendancy chart to this point (27.David3, 5.Stella2, 1.Marie1)

  17. 58.  Bradley Joseph HEITKAMP Descendancy chart to this point (29.Dale3, 5.Stella2, 1.Marie1) was born on 14 Feb 1993.

  18. 59.  Joshua Thomas HEITKAMP Descendancy chart to this point (29.Dale3, 5.Stella2, 1.Marie1) was born on 12 Mar 1996.

  19. 60.  Alyssa Marie HEITKAMP Descendancy chart to this point (29.Dale3, 5.Stella2, 1.Marie1) was born on 21 Jul 1998.

  20. 61.  Sydney SCHWIETERMAN Descendancy chart to this point (37.Angela3, 9.Donald2, 1.Marie1)

  21. 62.  Drew SCHWIETERMAN Descendancy chart to this point (37.Angela3, 9.Donald2, 1.Marie1)

  22. 63.  Jake SCHWIETERMAN Descendancy chart to this point (37.Angela3, 9.Donald2, 1.Marie1)

  23. 64.  Clay KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (38.Scott3, 9.Donald2, 1.Marie1)

  24. 65.  Cole KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (38.Scott3, 9.Donald2, 1.Marie1)

  25. 66.  Chase KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (38.Scott3, 9.Donald2, 1.Marie1)

  26. 67.  Rachel KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (39.Kyle3, 9.Donald2, 1.Marie1)

  27. 68.  Jaxon KREMER Descendancy chart to this point (39.Kyle3, 9.Donald2, 1.Marie1)


Generation: 5

  1. 69.  Hali VAN IDERSTINE Descendancy chart to this point (54.Christine4, 27.David3, 5.Stella2, 1.Marie1)

  2. 70.  Lane NIEKAMP Descendancy chart to this point (55.Chandra4, 27.David3, 5.Stella2, 1.Marie1)